Generational Politics, Immigration, and the Power of Informed Voting: A Conversation with Brenda Underwood

How do generational differences shape our political landscape? Join us for a fascinating episode of Deep for the Week as we sit down with Brenda Underwood to explore the intersection of politics, personal beliefs, and faith. Brenda, speaking from her perspective as a Christian voter, urges us to move beyond race or party loyalty and make informed decisions based on thorough research. We discuss the historical shifts in political affiliations, especially among African Americans, and how policies like welfare and Section 8 have influenced family dynamics. This episode is all about fostering respectful and informed discussions to create a more knowledgeable electorate.

Ever wondered how immigration policies and media biases shape our communities? We tackle these complex issues head-on, challenging misconceptions and highlighting the importance of understanding political platforms. Brenda sheds light on controversial topics such as welfare programs, cultural differences, and the treatment of immigrants. We also scrutinize the portrayal of political figures like Donald Trump, urging listeners to critically assess beyond media narratives. This deep dive into the intricacies of political beliefs aims to encourage open, non-confrontational dialogue and emphasizes the need for personal research in forming sound political opinions.

Ready to think critically about global issues and their local impacts? We conclude with a powerful discussion on the implications of global conflicts, national security, and the alarming trends in food production and educational standards. Brenda and I address the significance of being informed about the Agenda 2030 and other pressing concerns, advocating for community engagement and informed voting. This episode is a call to action for listeners to educate themselves, engage in meaningful conversations, and make informed decisions at the polls. Tune in for a follow-up show where we continue to explore these crucial issues as we approach the vote. Join us, and share your thoughts and insights on this transformative journey.

Chapters

• 0:01 Political Discussion for Informed Decision Making
• 7:51 Political Party Affiliation and Historical Perspectives
• 23:19 Importance of Research in Political Understanding
• 35:57 Potential Implications of Immigration Policy
• 48:19 Abortion, Politics, and Historical Context
• 1:06:04 Discussion on Abortion and Politics
• 1:22:23 Global Concerns and Political Awareness
• 1:33:59 Voting Education and Community Engagement

Transcript

Kali: 0:01

It's the Deep for the Week talk show. Are you ready to talk? Let's get deep for the week. Hello, and thank you for watching the Deep for the Week show. I'm your host, kali, and today's show is on politics. But before we get started, I'd like to remind you to like, share and subscribe, and today we love to hear your input. Please comment with us. We are live for the first time. We want to hear back from you guys. We want to hear your input as well, so comment below and if you really want to get deep with us, let us know and we'll send you the link via inbox or via text so you can also join us on the show if you just really had something to say. But again, today's show is on politics and I have a guest with us today. Again, I am Kali and we have today Brenda Underwood.

Kali: 0:51

Hello and thank you for joining us. I thank you for your time and I'm going to thank you for your input today, and so we're going to go ahead and get started. We're going to try to keep it PG here today so that we can stay live on Facebook. If not, we'll have to take it strictly to YouTube. But if you guys keep it decent, we can keep it here. So again, today's show is on politics. Okay, so let's keep it cool, but let's give our input. I tried to get some Democrats to join us today, but I couldn't get many people. I wanted to get input on both sides. Brenda, what side are you on? I don't like to say side, but what?

Brenda Underwood: 1:39

I am a believer in Jesus Christ, so therefore I am voting biblically, not based on color of skin, not based on party, not based on what people are saying you should do, but based on what the Bible says. And I believe if we were more knowledgeable about the different parties, then I would like for us to be more informed, to make informed decisions, instead of just making it because Black man, black woman type of thing. It should be based on information, research that you've done, things that you looked into and, because I am a little older, I have been around for a long time. So I've been around when we had racism really bad and how things have changed over the years. So my perception of things are a little different than most people.

Kali: 2:48

And that is exactly why I'm happy to have you on today, because I don't want just my demographics input. I want to have input of your demographic. You know people so that people of your peers can relate to as well. I know it's harder for people that are older than you. Know people so that people of your peers can relate to as well. Right, I know it's harder for people that are older you know my elders to take my input because they've been through more and see more than I've been through. So they're like how can I listen to you? So I'm glad to have you here today to give that input, because you've been through more than I've been through and you've seen more happen.

Brenda Underwood: 3:22

Right.

Kali: 3:23

And you've seen what political voting right can do, right. So let's get started today. Again, I'm not here to persuade anyone or, you know, mislead anyone. We're just here to give our input and what we've learned from our research and our knowledge in the room today. So let's get started with just giving some information and some background on each party, I believe, and on each person that's currently running. Again, we're not here to persuade you, but I'm probably coming from a certain point of you know, certain side, and you can figure that out later, okay. So again, if you want to tap in with us remotely, you can let us know in the comments and we'll try to get you in there before the show is over. You can also be anonymous and you can just hear your voice if you don't want to be seen. So now, if this is too deep for you, just tap out, you know, because we're going to go deep, we're going to give information that may not fit well with you, but let's try to keep it clean as possible, you guys. So, as I know these type of conversations, they can get intense.

Kali: 4:48

I love it, and I see that a lot of people are divided during this time of year. I don't think that it should divide us. We should learn from each other during this time more than anything. But it does cause a lot of ugliness and that's why I'm having the show to um kind of give it a better input, without the, the biasness and the argument and the. You know the detachment people are really. You know people will stop being friends with you over this. That's true. Family members everything.

Brenda Underwood: 5:18

I have been called Out in my family because I do not go along with the standard pro people who. My question would be how come we can't discuss things as adults who, if we have information, share? Sometimes somebody can say something that can make you research or think about something a little deeper than what you have been thinking about. Sometimes I think we skim across a subject we don't really know, a subject picked up from different people that we've heard or read about, or TikTok or whatever social media, instead of really searching it out ourselves to find out exactly what's going on.

Brenda Underwood: 6:15

I don't believe a lot of people understand that there's a Democrat platform and a Republican platform and an independent platform and a Green Party platform. Each political party has a platform. Maybe we should look at the platforms and discuss what they say they're really about, instead of listening to the rhetoric, the soundbites that people put together to make anybody say anything that they want to say. But maybe we should Google. We have Google. You can Google anything. Look up the Democratic Party, Look up the Republican Party, Green Party and the Independent Party.

Kali: 7:01

Find out what they for those that do not know what the Green Party and the Independent Party, because my generation, even the younger generation, they may not know anything about what you mentioned. Can you elaborate on that a little bit?

Brenda Underwood: 7:13

Just a little bit. I don't know that much about it. The Green Party probably is more of the climate. They're looking more at the climate, how things affect the climate. They would be probably more in tune to like the EVs, the electrical vehicles, things that will stop pollution in our world, so to speak. That's what I think. I might be wrong. I didn't really look that one up. Independent is the fact that people say I'm not a Republican, I'm not a Democrat, I'm independent. But they have a platform and it's just saying I'm not Republican and I'm not Democrat. We can all be independent, but not necessarily belong to the independent party. But just for saying you vote Democrat because you like some Democrats, you vote. Or a bona fide Republican, it's just whatever. If somebody that's a Republican might have something that I like, somebody that's a Democrat might have something that I like. So we should be able to switch.

Kali: 8:37

I think so too. Like I don't think it should be like a football team where, like you know, this is my team forever. Like you know, because there's going to be people that come and go in those organizations that you may not agree with any of their views. That's true. And now you know you're you got this mindset that I got to be stuck with this color you know, or this you know Republican or?

Kali: 8:56

whatever this title and I don't think it should be that way. I think that you know, if you need to switch every four years because of the views and whoever you know, go for what you believe in and what's best for your environment, then that's what you should do and I think that's what people should be voting according to, not, like you said, race or sex. So I just wanted to inform the younger, or even people that are older, that don't know what is a Democrat and Republican. You know, some of you are not even into politics and you just need to know this before you just go down there pressing dots. You know.

Kali: 9:32

So, if you like to learn more, it's basically two parties. They examine the differences between you know the policies and political positions of both parties. One, issues such as tax on issues such as taxes, the roles of the government, entitlements such as retirement, social security, medicare, gun control, immigration, healthcare, abortion, environmental and policies and regulations and stuff like that. So these two parties dominate America's political landscape, but they differ. They differ like really now, a lot, and that's true. So that is true. So like the demos are the left and the Republicans are the right.

Kali: 10:16

So if you guys hear that, you're like what is it? What are you talking about when they say left and right? That's what they mean. And so demos are supposed, democrats are supposedly more liberal and Republicans are supposedly more conservative. You guys, so the Democrat Party was started in 1828 and Republicans in 19 or a little bit later on. Ok, so let's just I like to say that years ago, like around that time, black people were not Democrats and for the reason why, democrats were more going for keeping black people into slavery at that time. So we were more on the Republican side, and we do. Do you remember where the switch came? I did a little research, but you might.

Brenda Underwood: 11:07

Abraham Lincoln who set the slaves free was Republican and at one time you had Black Republicans as Congress senators. This was, I guess, in the 18, early 19, early 1800s, probably way back then. A lot of people don't know that there was a war called the Civil War, which was the North against the South. The South wanted slavery and the North didn't want slavery. The South was more Democrat than Republican. So when you look at the history you would wonder Lyndon Baines Johnson back in the night in 19,.

Brenda Underwood: 12:05

Let's see Kennedy. He became president after John F Kennedy was assassinated and he made a statement and you can Google this where he said that they were going to keep the Negroes at that time, the Negroes at that time, democrat for 200 years. And if we get them to do what we want them, which is control, really we can control them. And how did they feel they could control us? By giving us things. They gave us the Section 8, but it wasn't called Section 8. Back then they gave us food stamps. They gave us things. They removed the men from the homes and because, put you on welfare, remove the men, the fathers, out of the homes, because at one time there were more black families father and mother, two parent families than anything. And then, once the government said, hey, we can give you X amount of money.

Brenda Underwood: 13:19

Basically, if you're single Right, you remove the man out the house.

Kali: 13:22

And it's still like that. Y'all know, when you go apply they, like you know, make you feel like you have to hide the man's name on that application to get the most out of those benefits, even in Section 8. And it's still like that. Women are still going through that today. So those programs still exist, that agenda still exists.

Brenda Underwood: 13:43

Of course, 200 years we've been cursed I hope y'all got them q-tips.

Kali: 13:49

Clean these wax out. The eco school. You guys need to hear this. You know, and, and, and really listen, I mean that was in the 60s.

Brenda Underwood: 13:57

So we're in 2024. Things have. Things have changed. Things have gotten better.

Brenda Underwood: 14:05

From when I was growing up and back in the 50s you could take a train from Detroit down south air conditioned, fluorescent lights and stuff air condition, fluorescent lights and stuff but when you got to Toledo because once you got to Toledo they would take the Black people off and put them in other cars that didn't have the air condition and the fluorescent lights so things changed and if you passed the Mason-Dixon line it was really bad. That's why back then children would go down, parents would send their children down south. School got out June 3rd, june 4th Train station was loaded with kids going south for the summer. We would carry our lunches because we couldn't buy food on the train going down or coming back either. So you always had lunch bags to take with you. But it was different. It was different.

Brenda Underwood: 15:20

Things have changed. People say they haven't, but they have. Down South. You couldn't, I couldn't walk down. If I was walking down the street and somebody a white person was coming toward me, a Caucasian, I had to walk around them. I went off the sidewalk, walked around them. Change, but we're making it worse for ourselves, because we're hating ourselves and why we have come a long way. More education, I mean things that we didn't have back then you got. Now you can go. At one time, blacks could not buy Cadillacs, you could only buy and that's why we love them so much.

Kali: 16:02

Is that why we get the Cadillacs?

Brenda Underwood: 16:04

You could not buy them. That's why we love him so much. Is that why we get the Cadillac? You could not buy him, right? You can't tell me now.

Kali: 16:07

Right, Is that oh?

Brenda Underwood: 16:08

my goodness, but, like I said, there's things that we don't know about.

Kali: 16:13

I didn't know that.

Brenda Underwood: 16:14

Oh no, you could not. You could not and you could buy Chrysler, but you couldn't buy a Cadillac. So it's like I said, things have changed. You can buy anything. You can buy a Bentley, if you got the money, you can buy anything you want. You can move anywhere you want. I'm not saying everybody is accepting of people, regardless of what race. It doesn't matter. We need to understand and because I am a believer in Jesus Christ and because the Bible says we are made in God's image, I am to accept people, regardless of and we should. Everybody has the same problems. You cut us. We all bleed red. That's why blood is universal. Anybody. If you got old, you can go with anybody, but it's just the fact that we don't accept. Why do we hate people? Because they're different from us.

Kali: 17:17

Why this time of the year shows it more than anything.

Brenda Underwood: 17:21

And that's true because of the election coming, and it doesn't help when you have advertisement and if that's all you're hearing, if all you're watching is media and all you're hearing is negative, negative, negative, then you start picking up on that and then your attitude changes and we become nasty toward somebody because they don't. My brother told me well, because I didn't vote for Barack Obama, I was not Black, and I'm like, excuse me, I mean he hung up on me because I did not say I was voting for Barack Obama. Color the skin doesn't matter, issues matter to me. Barack Obama at that time, senator Barack Obama was for the LGB, nothing against them. Lifestyle I did not agree with the lifestyle, not the people, the lifestyle. I did not agree with the lifestyle, not the people, the lifestyle. And when you go through life, you are not going to agree with everything everybody does, so you can't. It doesn't mean I hate you, right, and we should understand. A phobia means fear, not fearful of anything. I'm not homophobic, not at all.

Kali: 18:44

Yeah, me neither. I have gay friends. I've embraced trans people. I don't have anything against anyone's sexual orientation, anyone's race. I have friends of every creed and, being from LA, I have friends of every race and that's not an issue for me. I go off of character strictly and so that's what I hope again people are voting off of. And I don't think people know enough about Kamala's character.

Brenda Underwood: 19:12

But what they, what they should know and what they should be analyzing, is that she has been in the seat for three and a half years, almost four years, and we still have the same problems that he says that she has policies for. So if those policies were perfect, that they enacted when the Biden-Harris administration started back in 21, then we should be doing good. But we're not. And because I'm hearing people say, um, advertisement, you don't want to go back, Don't want to go back to what? That's my question. I don't want to go back to what I did not like 21 to. I mean Did not like 21. I mean grapes $5.99 a pound. Come on, A pineapple, A whole pineapple $8.99.

Kali: 20:16

They're not realizing it, are they really? I mean, because maybe they're getting free money or something that EDD. So they, like you know, swipe the card. You know I'm over here like Right, right you. You know it's absurd, you know it's, it's crazy. So in the gas it just, you know, goes up and down. It's like you can't really write a budget.

Brenda Underwood: 20:37

no, you can't. It changes. It does change, but but I just believe that we need to look at issues. Let's go apples to apples, oranges to oranges. Not based on a black woman or a black man. So what's wrong with having a Native American president, or having an Asian president, or or having an Asian president, or why are we and I guess I'm the wrong person to talk about this, but I have a problem with the fact that we think we're the only ones that have been enslaved. Every race out there has been enslaved, every race. So, since every race has been enslaved, why do we think?

Brenda Underwood: 21:30

I know my great grandfather was a slave. I knew my great grandfather. A lot of us out here don't know those people who were slaves. I knew my great grandfather and my great grandmother, who were both slaves. In fact, my great, his father, was the master. Captain Jack was his name. So I know my history. We need to know our history. We don't know our history. You need to know where you came from. Where are you going? Because we have a Black president? President, does that make things better?

Kali: 22:07

I mean, we have to ask what did Obama do? I would love to hear people tell me what they think Obama has done.

Brenda Underwood: 22:16

I would like that too.

Kali: 22:18

I can't.

Brenda Underwood: 22:19

What has Biden done? What has Vice President Kamala Harris done?

Kali: 22:30

I mean I believe you should have. I mean you do, I don't really. Ok, see, now that's the thing I've been doing my research more on this. Like what type of input does a vice president have? You know what I mean. Like what kind of say so Because clearly she has none. You know what I mean. Like what kind of you did say so Cause clearly she has none. You know what I mean. Like she's done nothing and she's saying all these things she's going to do now. But what's? Why haven't you done this so far? Why, or at least given your input that these things need to be addressed?

Brenda Underwood: 22:56

I totally agree we should. Let's sit down and talk about it why we have to fight. I shouldn't have to fight anyone because you have different beliefs. We can talk about it. Maybe you can give me some information that might make me think. Maybe I can give you some information that might make you think. That's all it's about Sitting down at a. You know, I always say go neutral a restaurant. I always say go neutral a restaurant, sitting down, coffee, dessert, whatever, and just talk. Let's talk instead of getting mad, because you and you can hear the anger in people. When you don't want to go, when you don't agree with what they're saying, the anger, that hate rises up and I'm like you know it's not that serious, it's not, it's not, and you can't learn that way either.

Kali: 23:49

You can't get um any knowledge being argumentative and aggressive that way, you know I mean you. You can't receive anything like that. So I always, like I told on my last show I mentioned like I can sit in a room with KKKs and it doesn't matter, get you know we can get into a deep conversation, because I'm not thinking about them being the KKK.

Kali: 24:09

I'm listening to what I can get from them. Right, you know, my thing is I'm gonna learn. Everybody has been through something. Everybody, you know it's. Everybody goes off of experience. So why are they that way? And if I listen hard enough, I'll figure out why. And so that's that's what this is all about, you know. I mean, if you listen hard enough, you do enough research, you'll figure out why and what you need to get out of the person. And I just don't think people do that around volunteers and they go off. Well, it's like America is like a big high school, you know. It's like, oh, whatever, my friends are doing, that's true.

Brenda Underwood: 24:44

Yeah, that's true, and whatever they say, I'm gonna go along with what they say, yeah, and it's not, it's not healthy.

Kali: 24:52

Like you know, you keep seeing Trump and like he recently got shot at again. You know, this time I don't see too many people cheering, but the last time I was like that's kind of ugly. You know they're really cheering about this man getting shot in the ear and I'm just like what religion, what Bible, what God do y'all serve? You know, because it don't matter if you like someone or not, you want to see them be shot in the head, in the ear. So it just shows how ugly this time gets.

Brenda Underwood: 25:22

And we have gotten ugly based on rhetoric that we don't even know where it came from. All these things that people are saying. How do we know if it's true? We don't.

Kali: 25:33

Most of the time, we find out that it is or it's not after you do your own research. For example, they made the example of Trump saying he's crazy because he mentioned the people eating animals.

Brenda Underwood: 25:47

But then you go do your own research and they are eating animals.

Kali: 25:49

There's people showing on the pits. There's people crying, there's people in the rage and you know?

Brenda Underwood: 25:56

Yes, what is that? Yes, and same thing with that agenda 2025.

Kali: 26:03

Now people need to know more about that. Trump did not write that?

Brenda Underwood: 26:07

No, he did not. Heritage Foundation wrote that and that was put out by Heritage Foundation. In fact, heritage Foundation, the president, said that Trump had no knowledge about this. Knowledge about this? But because we're hearing commercials and the Bible says that faith comes by hearing and if you keep hearing something, then you start eventually believing what you're hearing. And that's if I keep, regardless if it's right or wrong, if I keep saying it, you're going to eventually believe it, unless you do your research. I think worrying about 2025 isn't the case. There's an agenda out there called 2030 that we need to be reading about, because the 2030 is when we become one world government, one world religion, one world order.

Kali: 27:02

Now, who's behind 2030?

Brenda Underwood: 27:06

a whole lot of people who got money oh, lots of money, and so you got they're, they're, they're the um, they meet, they meet and and I don't know if it's called y7 or whatever, but the billion, billion, billion billionaires, um, you have um gates who's trying to block out the sun. I don't know what book he learned from, but if you block out the sun, things die.

Kali: 27:39

You can't grow anything, I know, but he wants to block out the sun.

Brenda Underwood: 27:44

But the agenda for 2030 is the fact that they said you won't have anything and you'll love not having anything. They're going to take away a lot of things Lots, houses, land. You won't be able to own anything. You won't be able to own anything.

Kali: 28:06

I've kind of heard something about this, what you're talking about but I haven't done too much research, you know, because I'm distracted by the 2025. But I need to do more research into that.

Brenda Underwood: 28:15

The 2025 is not taking away Black people. Anything. It's not. Read it. Don't listen to rhetoric.

Kali: 28:32

Well, they're reading and highlighting the parts that make it seem like you're going to be working overtime for free, you're going to be Cops, are going to be able to kill Black people and not go to jail. They're reading those parts and those are the parts that they're selling right now. You know what I mean To get them to be like. You know and you know. And again they got people thinking Trump is the one that and his organization is the one that's behind this.

Brenda Underwood: 28:57

It's not. It's the Heritage Foundation. You guys look up Heritage Foundation, google that's why you have Google, alexa or Sirius, or whoever. You have Syria not Sirius, but Syria and find out this information. It is a one sided. If we can get everybody to, if the government can get you to go along with what their agenda is, you're going to be stripped of a lot of things. The government is, they're out there, they're there to, and not everybody, not everybody. But we need to be doing research and not listening to rhetoric. And read it, learn for yourself, and if you'll look at things a little different, if you and it's not a black, white thing, it's people, it's all about people. It's not a red or blue thing.

Kali: 30:09

You know it changes all the time because, like we mentioned earlier at one point, you know the left were more you know for us, and then you know it changes according to what goes for them, like when it changed for them like, um, how, with the civil war and the Northern industrialists had grown rich from war, you know, and you know, that's when the factories start entering into politics and they no longer felt they needed us.

Kali: 30:42

So that's when they stopped. You know, doing as much that supported black rights at that time, you know, and so like, it's basically like politics. They use cultures and races for their benefit too, you know, that's true, and they seem to use ours more than any because we're so easily persuaded, gullible, so gullible. It's like I I might lose some viewers, but I hate this time of year and, uh, this, you know, every four years it comes around. It reminds me and it makes me, it just makes me like. You know, I can see how we were so easily put if we did come from africa, because I have my views on that. I don't think all slaves came from africa, but if we, you know the ones that did, or the ones that came from somewhere other than america, I see how we were so easily persuaded.

Kali: 31:38

I mean, you can tell us anything and we fall for it and go hard for it, like we'll detach for it and and it's like, um, I think that's a lot of reason why people decide to go with the crowd, because they're afraid to be isolated and detached from and, you know, ostracized because of their beliefs or what they not even beliefs of what their knowledge is, what they know, you know. So, um, I encourage people to do more research, like all this stuff that we're talking about. Like she said, you can find it on google we all.

Brenda Underwood: 32:18

We should know what the united states, the constitution of the united states. You should have an idea about that. We have. There's a little booklet you can get for the Constitution and for the Bill of Rights. We need to have information and we don't have information. So when you don't have information, you can't make an informed decision. I am a believer in making an informed decision. I am a believer in making an informed decision. I believe in prayer. I believe in researching, finding out for myself, not just listening to what people are saying, but researching.

Brenda Underwood: 33:10

Donald Trump is not as long as Donald Trump was a Democrat passing out money to the Democrats, they loved him when, when he made a decision, he was on Oprah show. So this was a little while ago when Oprah had her show. He was on there and she asked Donald Trump a question. She said would you ever run for president? And he said if I see the country not going the way it should be going, he said, yes, I would run. But back then NAACP gave him awards. He was getting awards from all of these well, they're probably deceased now, a lot of them. But a lot of people was like his friend because he was a Democrat and he was supporting Democrats. But when he came down I didn't see all of this, but they said he came down the escalator and said he was running as a Republican. Everybody got mad because he did not come up through the ranks. Because he did not come up through the ranks, most politicians come in going through the government as something as a congressperson or activist or something, but he didn't do that.

Brenda Underwood: 34:23

But we need to research when people are negative toward us.

Kali: 34:34

Why do we still vote for? You know so I've done some research. You mentioned Donald Trump has gotten a war from the NAACP. I've done some research on to kind of debunk the rumor of him being racist. Now, granted, he may have some followers that are racist, granted his parents, maybe his parents and his elders may have been, but that doesn't make him one. You know what I'm saying. Like, I have friends that have racist parents. That doesn't make them racist. But I do know that there's rumor of him funding the Black Panthers and Jesse Jackson when he ran for president. He did.

Brenda Underwood: 35:20

He supported him. When Jesse Jackson ran, he did support. I don't know about the Black Panthers. That's because I said rumors. I don't know.

Kali: 35:31

I was doing some research and there was one that spoke on it. But he has dementia now, so people are like he can't really be. But that's what his son is saying. But he's saying when he went to college with Trump, trump helped fund them, trump helped fund them and that may be why his parents held out on giving him as much money, because they found out he was funding organizations.

Brenda Underwood: 35:57

Well, sometimes if a person comes and say, you know, take up a donation. You don't always, I'm not making excuses he could have.

Kali: 36:09

Yeah. So I mean, those are, just like I said, those that's allegedly, those are rumors I heard. But I did hear about the NAACP as well and then, like I heard him having, you know, being associated with Muhammad Ali and Rosa Parks and other Black, powerful Black people that I don't think would have been associated with him if they felt he was racist. That I don't think would have been associated with him if they felt he was racist and if he wasn't contributing to a cause of theirs there's, you know. So you guys need to do your own research on what makes Trump's racist those little skits like you mentioned, and those little parts and pieces that they get out of the media. Then they put them together and those soundbites that make him sound, or whatever, ignorant or racist. You guys, like I said, do your own research on that Because after the last debate, they had some saying that the I forget CNN or wherever they were the moderators were being abc, were being biased and um, clearly, because we all see the evidence of the things, that some of the things he was saying was true and they they try to make the man out to be crazy, you know like, oh, who's eating cats?

Kali: 37:27

And again, do your research on Haitian people. They do do that and you know they're descended of my people. You know what I'm saying. So, like you know, people will be thinking you know I should be standing up for them because they're. But no, they do what they do. That's their culture. That's true, and it could be scary because that is not our culture. That's not what we do. You know you got your neighbor. You look over. You have a cat as a pet or a dog as a pet and your neighbor's barbecue one. That can be terrifying. That's true. You know what I'm saying.

Kali: 38:00

So, again, do your research. No one's trying to make them people out to be something they're not. That's their culture, but that is not ours. You know we don't. We didn't pay taxes in our neighborhood to see that. You know. And again, something needs to be done about that. It's not okay that they're letting immigrants with different, such a different culture it's a culture shock coming to our neighborhoods that we pay taxes. They're getting our free benefits that we can't I can say I can't get. I've been denied food stamps every time. So when I hear that they're getting money and stuff, it's just like how? Maybe I should just go down there and say I'm one of them and I don't have a social what you have to do is go to Mexico and come back through the hole.

Kali: 38:52

Yes, I've said that a couple of times.

Brenda Underwood: 38:56

California's getting ridiculous with giving $150,000 to buy homes.

Kali: 39:04

See, okay, and people think that that's a lie because we've been talking about that on Facebook and people are like, oh, that's a rumor.

Brenda Underwood: 39:10

No, it's not no, that is true. Newsom was his name. Gavin Newsom signed that theyowner. You can get $25,000 to purchase a home, but is that money to the people who are Americans in the United States or is that for people who have come across the border illegally? Or is that for people who have come across the border illegally? Are we encouraging? Is this administration encouraging? Illegal, they want to say undocumented, which still is illegal because you haven't come through the way everybody else comes through to receive. When you notice they're coming across the board and if they've been walking for all this time, because I'm thinking they're flying them in, from my understanding they're flying them in. They are coming in there. They don't look like they've been through a lot In distress. They're clean. They got cell phones, backpacks, backpacks and they don't look like they're.

Kali: 40:35

I've heard that they actually are down there going door to door. I don't know who told me I forget. I was the one talking about politics and I heard they're going door to door down there. You know like, come on and so that's just like I do have.

Brenda Underwood: 40:53

My niece has a friend who's a guard border patrol down in Texas. Remember when they had the shortage on baby formula? It's down at the border. They have border guards keeping in the warehouses, warehouses of stuff down there. They patrol and they protect it from us Because they're giving it to the. They get the money, they get the formulas, the diapers, they're getting the clothes. They're sometimes I think I know too much, um, regardless of who they are, because everybody that comes across the border is not from south america.

Kali: 42:01

okay, I was just gonna hit on that, we got the enemy come. I mean, you know, we're at odds with some of these people. You see young, strong Chinese. That's kind of eerie. And then you got later on you see on the news I don't know, a lot of people don't watch the news but then later on you see on the news Chinese people pretending to deliver pizza to a military base. Oh right, you just letting these people in to do these things, and then you know they're really informants.

Kali: 42:35

How did they get that close? How did they get in here? You know what I mean they're coming right through that border.

Brenda Underwood: 42:40

Nobody's asking any questions, because why are people coming? I mean, if you're in China, you can fly in from China, you can fly in from Sudan, you can fly in from Sudan, you can fly in Right to. Mexico, but they're coming in through Mexico without identification, without anything, and we think we're safe.

Kali: 43:03

I think we need to wake up, but look what we got to go through to get in and out of states and countries to fly. These people can just walk right on through.

Brenda Underwood: 43:14

I read where Sweden is giving them. They're giving the migrants $35,000 to leave. Get the hell on.

Brenda Underwood: 43:23

Leave, please leave. Sweden is getting rid of them because there are a lot of countries that have opened their borders for them. Shut them down. Poland I don't know if you ever listen to the I don't know if he's an ambassador or president of Poland. We don't give them nothing. They're not allowed. They're not allowed in Poland. They do not allow any immigrants in poland and I'm like, wow he's. But I understand why because it taxes the, the, our um finances. Where is all this money coming from? Who's paying the billions of dollars to these cities that are taking in migrants, the sanctuary cities? They got to feed them, they got to put them up, they got to. Who's giving them the money? Where's the money coming from? We work, we pay taxes, so where's that money? It goes to that city, well, immigration and they take care of the people who are coming in illegally, who can't read English, can't speak English, giving them driver's license. You know why.

Kali: 44:51

Because then they can vote yes.

Brenda Underwood: 44:54

So giving them driver's license and I'm wondering how can they read the? How can they read it Anyway?

Kali: 45:01

Yeah, you guys have to pay attention to all of this because it's like I don't know if people remember a couple years back when California started giving the immigrants driver's license, and do you know how many is there?

Brenda Underwood: 45:15

A lot.

Kali: 45:16

And you know, no one is against race or you know people coming to this country. It's just there's people here, there's still people here right now that came in illegally, that they're deporting. But letting these people in if y'all don't know, right, like I just watched a lady's video on tiktok and her husband was just deported not too long ago, like a couple months ago. But I mean, it's like what's the point of spending our money deporting people that were here already?

Brenda Underwood: 45:46

well, they deport them and they let them come back, because somebody who murdered somebody came been deported three times but he still got back into the country. And we need to. You need to be aware I'm not saying everybody that's coming in from different countries are bad. I'm not going to say that.

Kali: 46:10

That's not what I'm saying.

Brenda Underwood: 46:11

That's not. There are probably people who are being oppressed, depressed, suppressed in different countries. But if we don't watch it, the United States is going to look like Venezuela, and I don't know how much you know about that country. That was a flourishing country. Socialism got in. Now we eliminate the middle class, so now all you have is poor and rich. The middle class is eliminated, and that's the better. We need to watch it because at one time the middle class got hit really bad, back in the early twos, I think when, when Was it the mortgages and stuff we got?

Kali: 47:03

hit bad. I was working in that industry at that time and it just went boom. You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you know I want to mention some things, that positive things that Trump has done and I'm not going towards race like some people. You know they like you know what has he done for our people. I'm just in general, you know. So he's closed the borders. Everybody called him crazy for that, but maybe he's seen something coming. Um, they called him racist and all these names for that. That's another reason why they called him racist. He gave money to the hc bu's and um biden. Again, biden opened the borders and biden took that money back as soon as he got into office from the hbcus. Um, trump pardoned a lot of people.

Kali: 48:00

Oh, yeah, a lot of people right before he left and um in fact, the mayor of Detroit. And this criminal reform. You know he's helped find Black. He's just done a lot of stuff, a lot of stuff that people don't know about. When it comes to if you want to go off of race and I think you guys need to do more research on that and you know what's crazy, though, If you don't kind of know this information offhand, when you do Google it, it's kind of hard to find now during this time.

Kali: 48:36

Oh, they're removing it oh yeah, it's kind of, it's like what's going on. So you got to you know tap in, you got to like know how to Google, but it's there for you guys. It's there for you guys all the I like for people to um do their own research because, um, like I said, they like to think, people like to think that you're gearing them or persuading them toward what you know you think is the better party. But all this stuff is there for you guys to see. Um. Um, I just just really wanted to have this show and again with you, someone that is Christian, um African-American of older age, because a lot of people your age and of your um religious background are strictly Kamala and I, uh, again, again they that's because they think she's a black woman. Now, let's talk about that. Nationality and race are two different things. She and I think that you guys need to do your research on that, um, when she first became um and I think she came in the Senate as a Indian.

Brenda Underwood: 49:51

Okay, she came in. She was the first Indian senator from, I guess, in the Senate period at that time. But, like I said, seeing when people say, well, she's black, Well, that depends Some people who are. If you're biracial, you can claim anything you want to claim. I mean, really you can People want at one time to say if you had I think it's one eighth of black blood, you are black.

Kali: 50:31

So maybe she got like an eighth, I don't know.

Brenda Underwood: 50:34

But she didn't, but when she came into the Senate she said she was. She came in as the first Indian From Pakistan, India Senator.

Kali: 50:48

Yeah, so she doesn't. She didn't identify, like Trump said, as Black, and so it was beneficial to her, because they know how we feel about stuff like that, how easily we're persuaded with stuff like that.

Brenda Underwood: 51:07

My question would be why? Why would a person of color vote for someone, a person of color? Based on the color of the skin? They could be the bottom of the barrel.

Kali: 51:26

Well, I'll say this I mean, mean, wasn't it one of our own kind? And I? I like I mentioned this during this time or any time that people are persuaded just, oh, he's black I'm. Because he's black, I trust him because of that. You know, it was from what history says, some of our own kind that persuaded us into slavery. You know's true, you know what I'm saying. That's true, and I believe that to be true. That's true. I think there was people that was like I'll give you the mansion and you won't be one, but I need you to get them over there to be one. And you know the house, nigga, you know what I mean.

Brenda Underwood: 52:02

Whatever, the slavery came about in any war I'm going back way back, way, way back beginning of time. When you have wars, you have people who are conquered and a person who's conquered they they become the slaves of that victorious army. They go and they take everything from them and make them slaves. So that happens in any war, any war. When the wars, nowadays, when we have war and whoever's victorious, what they do now is take care of that country until that country gets back on its feet, so to speak. But war and war, you take, somebody loses, they become slaves. You either put them in jail or now they do, but back then they became your slave. So slavery is not something that's Black. Slavery is anybody in any race that's out there.

Kali: 53:29

And if you read and you do a little research you will see, like you said, a lot of races have been slaves before.

Brenda Underwood: 53:35

Every race.

Kali: 53:36

I think that we feel like we suffer the most from it because we're still suffering from it, because of what you said, of our own ways, sometimes our lack of knowledge. We're not a victim.

Brenda Underwood: 53:55

You don't have to be.

Brenda Underwood: 53:56

You don't have to be a victim. You can be a victim, but that's a choice. We don't have to be victims. We can be victorious in anything that we accomplish. You have a lot of things that the Black man, black woman invented over years. I mean, if you go and you look that up, there's a lot of things out there, the streetlights, I mean. There are things that people never really talk about, that Black people have invented. So we aren't victims. I don't. You know, I counsel women who find themselves in an unplanned pregnancy. I volunteer at a pregnancy center and I.

Brenda Underwood: 54:48

Just because you have a baby does not necessarily mean your life is over. God gifted you with talents and you have talents. You have giftings. You can take that and become whatever you want to be. You don't have to let something stop you or hinder you from progressing in life. We don't have to say, well, okay, I can't do this because of whatever. The only reason you can't do something is because of you saying you can't do something. If you start believing in who you are and that you have value, you can do and become anything that you want to. I'm sure a lot of people in politics never thought that they would be in politics, but ended up in politics. That same thing goes for being a well. Some people start out wanting to be a football player or a basketball player, but it's all based on money.

Kali: 55:52

Some people's dreams, and that's not a good thing to base your dreams on.

Brenda Underwood: 55:57

No, because you're in physical sports, you can get hurt. So you can't say I'm going to be the, but we have giftings and people might be in sports, get hurt and then do something else and become even better or greater than if they'd have been a sports player. Player.

Kali: 56:20

Oh yeah, and there's so many things you can do in sports too. I tell people that all the time, Like, don't just think to be a player.

Kali: 56:27

That's true, that's true, you know, you know, but you mentioned working at a pregnancy center, and so let's get on abortion a little bit. People are, like you know, thinking that that's one of the issues that they use to say that Trump is a dictator, because they say that he wants to control your rights to be able to abort. And I think he was just more so we spoke about this a couple of weeks ago, I think he was just more so pointing out the fact that a lot of those clinics are in our neighborhoods.

Brenda Underwood: 57:13

I've been doing. I've been involved in pregnancy centers since 1999. So I know stats, I know I've had two abortions. I know what I'm talking about. Number one every state has passed laws to say you can abort. Ok, what Roe versus Wade did, and that was only passed because of teenagers. We got to remember that because teenagers were getting pregnant and they they, whoever they are wanted didn't want teenagers to be saddled with children. So they passed that kind of helped pass the law for Roe versus Wade, based on the fact that there were a lot of teenagers getting pregnant.

Brenda Underwood: 58:06

The Planned Parenthood in the city of Detroit has over 17,. At that time there were 17 Planned Parenthoods in the city of Detroit, none in the suburbs, none in the suburbs. So eventually we have. Now I think you might have one every so often, but not as much as in the city of Detroit. When you go into urban areas they always have more abortion centers. And that's because, if we really go into the history of Planned Parenthood, margaret Sanger wanted to eliminate the Black race and if you keep encouraging people to get abortions, you will eliminate a race. So Roe versus when they reversed it, all they did is took the power away from the federal government, but the states.

Brenda Underwood: 59:18

You can still get an abortion and I'm sorry, President, vice President Harris was wrong when she's saying that they don't abort up to the time of delivery. And they do. You can get an abortion up to nine months and if you and if they, there's different. I think they use two procedures to do it, but there's. You can't say they don't do it, they do. They do it in Michigan, they do it in every state, even though legally you only can abort up to 24 weeks, which is six months, if you really think about it, I had an abortion at that age, at that gestation stage.

Kali: 1:00:04

Oh, I know that is real.

Brenda Underwood: 1:00:06

But see, when I got abortion, when they first came out with the legalized it, you, in order to get an abortion, you had to have three doctors, obgyn doctors letters stating that you were only up to 12 weeks. Now we, they, you go in and you get an abortion. They don't care what age you are because they can backdate paperwork.

Kali: 1:00:35

So look and in who knows, I mean when you pull a baby out. At that, I mean at that stage, even at six months. I've had now this is the thing I've had a abortion at that stage at 24 weeks, and then I've had a baby that lived, that's alive today, at 29 weeks. So you know, I just want to know what the hell they, if they're doing that at nine months, what they're doing with that baby that you know babies.

Brenda Underwood: 1:01:15

Aborted babies parts are being used.

Kali: 1:01:19

They're using the aborted baby parts now, and I believe that like this, this stuff I mean, you know people are, you guys are, you know you conspiracy theorists? You guys are, oh no, but it gets a lot deeper than y'all really. And you guys hear about all these missing kids and all this stuff and you guys just kind of just let this go. You hear about all this molestation and this stuff and these islands and this and that, and it's just like, and then you see all these celebrities are being cracked down on and you guys are just kind of ignoring this stuff a little too much. It's not, you know, the boogeyman, it's not like, oh, a monster story. It's not like something that I believe too. Like every little mystery, every little theory comes from something. It's just a stretched lie. Even if it is a lie, you know some part of it is true, and so I think you should always do your research when something sounds too good to be true or you know it sounds too unreal or whatever, and you'll find something on it. That's true, you will.

Brenda Underwood: 1:02:23

That's true. You definitely will find something out there on it. But people, just because she said that, vice President Harris said I heard her speak out of her mouth that they're not doing abortions up to nine months. That's a lie. They are doing abortions up to nine months and they are I belong to I'm part of. Well. I won't say belong. Belong to I'm part of well. I'm gonna say belong. Um, there's an organization out there called a21 and it's for survivors of abortion.

Kali: 1:03:02

See, a lot of people don't know that their babies, who have lived, who've been aborted let's talk about it, because I'm thinking, if somebody is aborted at that age, at that gestation age, yeah, they can live. And so I'm like, if they live, after they snatch them out, do they kill them or do they keep them and do they tell the?

Brenda Underwood: 1:03:22

parents. Now, these, the ones I'm talking about, are all over the age of 18, 20, 30. Okay, so they're older. I don't know what they're doing now. Nowadays they're not. If a baby is born after a botched abortion, they leave it there to die. They do not take care of it. Okay, so, they leave it to die. But the organization, the ministry that started with aborted children who were survivors Sylvester Stallone is a survivor of abortion. Oh yeah, he's talked about it. So yeah, so we.

Kali: 1:04:12

Oh my God, Is that why he a little funny in the first place? I'm all right, he does have a little special lips on him now that you say that.

Brenda Underwood: 1:04:25

But yeah, oh, my goodness. But there are. I met at the pregnancy center we had. Her name is Gianna, she has cerebral palsy, but she was a survivor Really. She spoke at our, at our banquet. So if people can't say they aren't survivors, they are and, like I said, these are older so I don't know what they're doing now.

Kali: 1:04:54

The people that they know their parents, the one that you know um.

Brenda Underwood: 1:04:58

She met her um birth mother. Eventually she was adopted, but then she met her birth mother when she got um older that is so interesting, yeah. Yeah, so it's. So don't believe that there aren't survivors of abortions, because they aren't.

Kali: 1:05:21

Now I want to interview her, like when they survive, where do they take them? Where do they go?

Brenda Underwood: 1:05:25

They go into some At that time they would put them into. If they survived back then they took them to the hospital before they take them to the hospital, so they would get the treatment that they needed, and then the children would be adopted.

Kali: 1:05:47

Wow, that is very interesting, you guys. Oh, my God, See, now you're going to have me all night with my coffee, Like because that is very interesting, Because I mean I've always had those thoughts like okay, if a baby can survive. You know, I've seen people have babies at five, and you know, five and a half weeks, almost six months, Then yeah, and then they're getting abortions at that gestation stage.

Brenda Underwood: 1:06:14

They've always said, if a baby, if they had the equipment for a premature baby 20 weeks, if they had the equipment, that small, now, now they do, now they do, but they could have saved a lot more babies. But a baby is born if they can be premature and babies do live. You've seen them, little babies, about this big. The mother has them on the chest, or the father, you know, on their naked chest, to get them to feel the heat from their bodies and stuff. But you see how I mean.

Kali: 1:06:59

My twins were born bite size Like they could fit in my hands and couldn't fit no diaper. That was ever, you know Right. And they look like little squirrels with no. They didn't have no nails, no hair, no eyebrows, nothing like yeah they look like they didn't have. You can see all their veins in their body. You can see their heart through their skin right, but they lived.

Brenda Underwood: 1:07:21

They're grown and and and people like to say well, um, they don't want to call it boarding babies, they want to call it fetuses. Fetus is baby, it's Latin really for little one but we use words and we don't know what they mean, so we do need to learn that, but yeah.

Kali: 1:07:47

Yeah, see. So now you guys can look deeper into why they want to control, not you being able to get an abortion, but maybe gestation um, if you've ever gotten abortion past four months now it's got you wondering like, okay, what they doing, my baby you know. And so I don't think it's a control, it's just to, um, not to control your rights, to control the numbers and where they're doing and who they're doing. That to the abortion thing who are they allowing? If you look at the numbers, it's a lot of African-American people getting abortions and between that and the police killing us and us killing each other.

Brenda Underwood: 1:08:34

It's not that many police. When you look at stats, it's not the police, it's more us killing us. That part.

Kali: 1:08:42

Yeah, and us killing our own babies, right you?

Brenda Underwood: 1:08:45

know right and see people don't understand. Before the abortions were legal, People were doing backstreet abortion. Abortion has been around forever, Forever.

Kali: 1:08:57

Backstreet abortions. Were they like a pill? No, I had a backstreet abortion.

Brenda Underwood: 1:09:01

A backstreet abortion is when they use a catheter and a cold anger.

Kali: 1:09:06

Oh my Lord, and then it works.

Brenda Underwood: 1:09:10

Well, you get infection, you bleed, almost bleed to death.

Kali: 1:09:14

But yeah, oh my Lord. And what's the gestation that? So that's like in that movie. What's that movie? I forgot what that movie's called when the lady was doing that.

Brenda Underwood: 1:09:30

I think they have been movies about backstreet abortions and that was another reason that they wanted it, because they were saying backstreet abortion. But people have been doctors, have been giving abortions in their office for years. So my she would have been my aunt had one that the doctor did in his office so and she was like when she died she was 80 something. So I'm talking, abortions have been around. It's not nothing new, it's been around for years. New it's been around for years. And when people celebrities get pregnant, because you know Hollywood, so they had abortions. So it's not something that's new. But it's the fact that with Planned Parenthood they singled out the Black community.

Kali: 1:10:34

They had an agenda.

Brenda Underwood: 1:10:36

To get rid of. And if you listen to her, if you read her agenda, margaret Sanger, margaret.

Kali: 1:10:43

Sanger, you guys need to look up Margaret Sanger S-A-N-G-E-R. Okay.

Brenda Underwood: 1:10:48

Her thing was to get rid of the Negro.

Kali: 1:10:56

So go back, you know, like, like I said, there's something behind everything. So you guys are like I don't. You know this man wants to tell us what to do with our body and this and that and the other. There is more to what you guys. You know the media is not pro-trump, so they're not. You know what is positive behind his agenda. They're only going to make it seem negative and dictate. You know, like he's becoming a dictator, he's trying to control you, he's trying to take your rights away. His people are crazy, his people are racist and, like I said, he may have people that are racist, that follow him, that are pro-Trump, you know, want to make america great again in their eyes, whatever, but really do your research on the man himself, um, what he's done, um, business wise, um, I do think that america is overall, big, corporate, big business and it does need someone that is business-minded to run it. So I don't think the government is a business.

Kali: 1:11:54

Yeah it, that's why it really is yeah to um, so it's like a to me in my eyes is a. It's a huge corporation so it needs someone that's corporate minded and successful in business to run it. That's true, I.

Brenda Underwood: 1:12:11

Evidently the politics is not working.

Kali: 1:12:14

No, and I think it worked a little better under his wing with his knowledge.

Kali: 1:12:23

With his knowledge. You guys want to call it his dictation, whatever, but if you look at the prices and the interest rates and the way things were rolling, it was way better than rolling. It was good. It was way better than now.

Kali: 1:12:37

You know it's not going to be the 90s again, you guys, you know what I'm saying, and we had some times then that it wasn't that great because you guys voted because someone loved black people and they said they smoke weed. You know what I mean. And so this happens a lot and we get none out of it, you know. So this time I just hope that you guys do your research. Who is trump to you? Who was kamala to you? Don't go off of. You know what these people, these people stormed into some building you I don't really think he had too much to do with that like they're trying to make it. Some people are gonna do what they want to do. If, even if he said don't do it, I think you know. Um, really go off of what someone's gonna do for you, what someone's going to benefit you in your community, in your maybe even maybe your religion, whatever. You need help and fixing in. That's how you vote, and then don't forget to vote locally as well, the same way you know.

Brenda Underwood: 1:13:42

You have to. We should vote based on the fact of issues. There are a lot of things it doesn't. It's not just the president. It starts down at the city council, it starts with the mayor. When I mean, when you look at the, the demographics of the United States, your urban cities are pretty much run by Democrat mayors, and they are not. And I have to say Detroit is doing better than some of these other cities.

Kali: 1:14:25

California. Y'all wonder why y'all gas so high.

Brenda Underwood: 1:14:27

Y'all about the Democrat. Well, number one, the Gavin they're one. Well, number one, gavin they. Gavin Newsom, who's governor of California, wants to charge Chevron Chevron Gas Company a dollar a barrel extra. They put out 250,000 barrels a day. They're moving to Texas.

Kali: 1:15:00

They said bye-bye. You see what I'm saying. So they're just going to overcharge everybody in California. It's just ridiculous, and so knowing how to vote is important, you know, and knowing what people are behind and what they support and what the you know what they're doing with these companies that affect you.

Brenda Underwood: 1:15:20

You know you need gas right you need gas you need food right.

Kali: 1:15:24

You know, so you need to understand, and I believe all of them are being paid to do what they do. You know, overall, they all benefit from these companies. If you do this, we'll break you up. I think it's all about that. At the end of the day, it's all about money it really is. Basically, just make sure your money is going where you want it to go. It's not going to waste. This last four years we've seen a lot of money go to waste. We haven't seen really a lot come out of it.

Brenda Underwood: 1:15:56

Are they making money? At one time, Fort Knox had the gold. That's where the gold was kept. I don't know if we have gold.

Kali: 1:16:09

I was going to say is there even any gold in that building?

Brenda Underwood: 1:16:11

I don't know, but I know they print money.

Kali: 1:16:16

There's rumor there's no more gold in that building.

Brenda Underwood: 1:16:18

That's what I've heard. But they're printing money. So but you got countries. They're starting to say we don't want the dollar, the American dollar, it's not backed by nothing.

Kali: 1:16:32

I believe that's what all them cash for gold signs were. You know? You've seen that for like five years, ten years right why you see these signs everywhere, why, you know, and people were just giving that gold away, you know, and it's like what was the? They wanted that, all that gold, you know, because there's none there. They need to have something to put in there.

Brenda Underwood: 1:16:48

Well, now, if, if, china, russia and some other countries will not be accepting the dollar, so we have to go digital Watch.

Kali: 1:17:02

Read up on that, because if we go digital, and while we were having a debate that's something major happened with that, I believe as well. The night we had the debate.

Brenda Underwood: 1:17:12

There's what we do, thank you. There's distractions. See what we do, thank you. That's it Distractions. If I get you over here, I'm doing this over here and you don't know about it, and I believe that's a lot of that is going on.

Kali: 1:17:26

Oh, yeah, it's so easy to do it here to us. Well yeah, you can make. Make a song, they're not like us, and we'll be distracted by that for 30 days, you know so, even 90 but that's to keep you from understanding what's going on.

Brenda Underwood: 1:17:43

Just because there's smoke doesn't mean there's a fire there and we got to start looking at. Okay, if they're saying this is so important, what are they doing over here? Because they are doing something. They are doing something.

Kali: 1:18:00

Yes and I don't feel secure. I mean, as much as I would love to see a Black woman in authority, as much as I'd love to be in higher positions, like I said before, I don't think I'm in position to be in those positions. At times, with my emotional state and just from her background and what I know from her doings in California as in position in law, I don't want to see someone like her in position in authority over our whole country and I just don't think still that the world is ready for that To have a female as an American leader.

Brenda Underwood: 1:18:45

Yet I was asked would I vote for a woman president? Amazing Democrats finally figured out what a woman is. Think about it, Are you sure? Think about it. They figured out what a woman they say because her pronouns are her and she. Anyway, I have no problem voting for a woman that's competent, educated, no foreign policy someone that can stand, because you got to be able to stand in front of all of these leaders and show that you hey, I know what I'm talking about.

Kali: 1:19:37

You got to show who you really are you got to be able to stand ten toes? Down when you go over there because they're going to look at you like yes, be pleased. Yes, they already don't even respect Biden like they should.

Brenda Underwood: 1:19:51

They don't respect that. When I forgot what country Vice President Harris went to and I think it was somewhere down in South America she went to this country and he introduced her to speak first.

Kali: 1:20:12

And she said, tag, you're it. So I'm like wait a minute.

Brenda Underwood: 1:20:23

No, she didn't. Yes, she did. So I'm like, see, that's an embarrassment, it is very embarrassing. How can you say you want to be lead to be make decisions?

Kali: 1:20:34

Taking seriously.

Brenda Underwood: 1:20:36

Yes, not play games, we don't play. If you take my, if you mess with me, my people, oh, I'm coming for you, not standing around talking about he, he, he, I don't need all of that.

Kali: 1:20:50

I just want to ask the people this how did you feel when Trump was in office and somebody made a threat to us? Was you walking around still watering your flowers like ancient by the happiness Versus? Today you watch the news and you're like, oh God, you feel me. It's like, okay, let me do my favorite things today, because today might be the last day. Do you really want to feel like that? You know what I mean. I mean you do feel. I do do feel that energy, right?

Kali: 1:21:22

now it doesn't feel safe with the people we have in leadership and I want to feel safe. I want to know that whoever's in leadership is not getting punked. We know Biden is not holding an assertive conversation with anybody doing nothing wrong. He cannot. You know what I'm saying. So, with that being said, that's what we want. That's what we need, especially in this time.

Brenda Underwood: 1:21:47

We need a strong person to stand firm, say what they mean and mean what they say, Not the rushy-washy flip flop. I'm against fracking, Now I'm for fracking. I'm against, and now I'm for. I'm against the wall, Now I want the wall. Exactly. I don't that flip flop stuff. I can't. I put it like this I tell people I'm too young to play games. We can't, you can't. I feel you. You can't play games. What's going on in the world is serious.

Kali: 1:22:25

It is, and if we?

Brenda Underwood: 1:22:26

don't take it for being for real. This is people are not playing. Those are real guns and bombs and missiles and all of that being shot over there in Ukraine and Russia and Israel and wherever.

Kali: 1:22:40

We're just being a little too cocky and comfortable about that not happening on our own territory, on our own land, didn't they?

Brenda Underwood: 1:22:49

What was 9-11 if that wasn't a wake-up call? And now we got a country with 20 million people. We don't know who they are okay, where they are okay, and uh, we're just gonna think. We're gonna look up one day and somebody will be knocking on your door.

Kali: 1:23:08

So I believe that we and then they want to take our guns.

Brenda Underwood: 1:23:11

Right.

Kali: 1:23:14

Well, and you know that's for a whole nother show. I'm just like you know, register all of them. I know you know everybody wants to be CPL holder. I'm like I'm not so big on that. I don't want them to know. I got one Because you know when the things come down to them, when they come to start taking them, to start taking them, I don't have one. It's getting that out. I really feel that in the air you guys are not taking things seriously enough.

Brenda Underwood: 1:23:40

No, and we need to.

Kali: 1:23:42

They're not watching the news the agreement that was just made with the nukes and the bombs the other day.

Brenda Underwood: 1:23:49

With what country?

Kali: 1:23:53

I was watching it, I believe this morning or the morning half asleep, but Biden agreed to do some stuff. I'm going to have to update you.

Brenda Underwood: 1:24:02

I do know that on the 22nd of September they've been talking about this for a little while he wants to give over our sovereignty to the UN, which means the UN.

Kali: 1:24:23

Is it?

Brenda Underwood: 1:24:23

UN or who.

Kali: 1:24:24

We got to hear when is November. I know January.

Brenda Underwood: 1:24:28

They're talking about. They were going to do it back in two years ago, 22. But African countries said, no, we're not going for it. They stopped it because they wanted to take over. It might have been who World Health Organization, Not the UN, but the World Health Organization where they can say it's a pandemic and put you under lockdown again, tell you you can't do, no, we're not doing that. And they had to have so many countries and they didn't have that many countries, so it stopped from doing that. So then President Biden said that when it comes up again, he would like for the United States to hand over. And that's what you're doing. You're handing over your sovereignty to hand over. And that's what you're doing. You're handing over your sovereignty to tell another country, the World Health Organization, you control us.

Kali: 1:25:41

And if y'all didn't like that last lockdown three four years ago. You didn't like that fake-ass situation that they blew up and I believe stress increased people's death rates and fear it's real.

Brenda Underwood: 1:25:58

It's real. When they're killing. How many cows in a production plant Is it production? They killed all the cows. I don't know how many cows that they killed, the, the, the cows, or I don't know how many cow heads or cows that they kill. I'm noticing a lot of um production, uh, plants that have chickens. Chickens are being um.

Brenda Underwood: 1:26:28

I know personally of two small people that had chickens. Ok, chickens used to weigh three, four pounds. Ok, they don't weigh that anymore. You don't feed chicken oats. Chickens eat what's on the ground, they eat the bugs and they eat stuff. Okay, and they gain weight and stuff. Now we got these little white looking chickens. Chickens shouldn't look like that, they're not chickens are not plump, so but anyway, we used to. They had a chicken farm and her chickens would weigh three to four pounds. They cost a little bit more than it cost. They were organic because she fed them. They were free range pasture raised chickens and they ran about $15, but you got a great chicken. Now, what are chickens? Chickensens is expensive, but they set her farm on fire too. Two people I know Farms were set on fire. Laser, you know that laser thing they do.

Kali: 1:27:45

People don't think this shit is. Excuse my language, but that just made me mad. People don't think that this stuff is real.

Brenda Underwood: 1:27:54

You know it is.

Kali: 1:27:55

But when you know people that it's personally happened to and you're like, you know there's no sign of you know a fire department can't tell you how this fire started.

Brenda Underwood: 1:28:04

Sure, can't, they can't Go to Hawaii. Look what happened in Hawaii. Do you remember that fire Mm-hmm, okay, it skipped.

Kali: 1:28:17

There's no way that it could have did that. It skipped. No way it skipped over water and went to. I mean, if you've ever lit a cigarette or anything close to your eyelash, your eyelash got sent.

Brenda Underwood: 1:28:28

Yep.

Kali: 1:28:28

So how the hell, I know. I know, I know, you know they want us to think that we we don't know, that we don't know. You know what we know. But I mean, some of us actually paid attention in school.

Brenda Underwood: 1:28:42

Right, that's one thing I like. I actually learned about politics in school because of the fact that's what they taught. They don't teach you that anymore. You don't learn civics, you don't learn American history like it used to be. You don't learn things. It's an option in college.

Kali: 1:29:04

Well, see An option that you're not going to take if it's not a prerequisite for your degree.

Brenda Underwood: 1:29:11

But then you're not learning anything. We learn how to write checks. Who can write a check? Who can balance a checkbook? Who knows what's in their account? I mean, we just spend money and forget that we got to pay bills. I mean, I think a lot of things that I was taught have been eliminated from school and they're dumbing us down. Oh yes, Dumbing us down where we don't. We're being dumbed down for what? Whose purpose?

Kali: 1:29:49

Someone's and it's programming and it's a lot Whose purpose? Someone's and it's programming and you can see it and it's kind of like people are almost robotic and the people that are more like us, that can't be programmed or persuaded easily. We're crazy ones.

Brenda Underwood: 1:30:06

Well, yeah, they do say that, but that's okay. I am informed, I'm educated, but I don't have a problem if you call me a name.

Brenda Underwood: 1:30:19

Yeah, I don't have a problem. If you want to call no problem, I don't get mad about it. I'm not going to get upset because I'm not. I'm not going down the path that you want me to go down and that's what we have to. The Bible says the road is wide. It is because everybody's on this road, but I'm going a different way than what everybody's going and I think we need to wake up and not follow the crowd. Just because the crowd, the crowd, can fall off the hill doesn't mean I have to fall off of it. So we just need to wake up, recognize that the world is not the way. It's not that way anymore. The world is different now. This is 2024.

Kali: 1:31:09

You're going in 2025 and what you see is not is definitely not what you get. A lot of stuff is not what you think it is.

Brenda Underwood: 1:31:22

That's true. We need to wake up.

Kali: 1:31:25

Yeah, and so it's hard to make people believe some of the things we're saying or to understand, because what they see every day, what's being televised, what's being heard on the radio, what's being put in front of them, you know. And who are we, these little people? So how do you know this? You know these people, you know, and so I can get. I can get how people are easily persuaded and or programmed. But, um, just do a little insight, a little reading, a little research on your own.

Kali: 1:31:52

That's true Before November. You got a couple of weeks. Yeah, you might want to stay away from the debates. I think Trump said he was pulling out from doing anymore Right?

Kali: 1:32:03

Because it's like not beneficial or conducive to his you know his organization because they're only making him look out to be crazy and, like I said, with the research I've done, I may look crazy to some of you that have not done your research but, um, I'm not with the democrats this season, I'm not, and I don't usually choose according to a color. You know, demo, red or blue, whatever I go off of who is more beneficial to the cause that I believe of humanity, right? So you do your research. On Kamala, if you're going off a race, she's not done great things for your race in the state of California. No, not at all, not at all. There's probably, like I said, there's probably someone you're related to in jail because of something very minute that she sent it to before. You're related to in jail because of something very minute that she sent them to before, and then she let out people that should have been in there for a long time, that continue to do crimes and hurt people. So you know, just like I said, do your research and I hope that today's insight and what we've taught and share with you.

Kali: 1:33:08

Today we asked for you Democrats to come and join us. I did a couple of times for a couple of weeks. No one joined, no one wanted to come and get their input. So you guys got our input and I hope it was great knowledge for you guys today and you can do some further research and, in November, do the right thing. If you're not registered to vote, you can do so online and you can also do so via Facebook. I heard they did inbox me about registering to vote. I'm already registered, but there's plenty of platforms and ways to register. So you guys, this season is very important to register and vote, not just complain about the results.

Kali: 1:33:43

Vote, make sure you get your word out there. That's the way you get your word out there.

Brenda Underwood: 1:33:46

And stop thinking that your vote doesn't matter, and it does.

Kali: 1:33:52

That's how Barack became president. It wasn't a bunch of white people that voted for him, it was y'all Okay. So thanks again for joining me, ms Brenda, on the Deep for the Week show, and I love to hear your insight, cause a lot of that stuff I didn't know, like the 2030, I'm going home and look into that more tonight and take some notes and maybe do another show. I'm going to go downtown, hopefully soon, and get some people's input, live on why they're voting for, what they voted for and who they're voting for, and maybe they can help and educate us even more. And again, thank you for joining us and you're watching the D for this week show, you guys, and if there's anything you'd like to you know, elaborate on, give us more input and things you know that we didn't touch upon, feel free to comment. We're going to probably have a second show on this before you know we go to vote. But again, you guys, do your research and vote accordingly. And thanks for watching the D for the Week show. See you next time.