Family, Acceptance, and the Power of Love

What if your family couldn't accept who you truly are? Join us as Natalia, a 26-year-old transgender woman from Trinidad, courageously shares her journey of self-discovery, identity, and the evolving acceptance from her family. Natalia's story takes us through her childhood realization of her gender identity, her brave efforts in altering her mother’s clothes to fit her feminine style, and the heartwarming transformation of her family's support over time. This heartfelt episode provides a touching narrative that underscores the critical importance of family acceptance and support in the lives of transgender individuals.

We dive into the complexities of navigating gender identity and sexuality, focusing on the fluidity of sexual orientation and the significant changes brought about by hormone therapy. From the physical transformations to the impact on fertility, Natalia's insights offer a detailed look at the realities of living authentically. We also engage in a candid discussion on the necessity of transparency in relationships, the challenges of disclosing one’s gender identity to potential partners, and the controversial debate surrounding transgender participation in gender-specific sports. This conversation emphasizes the crucial need for respect, honesty, and mutual understanding in fostering genuine and safe connections.

Our conversation takes a broader societal perspective as we discuss the significance of Pride and Black History Month, the emotional journey parents undergo when their child comes out, and the importance of not imposing beliefs on children. High-profile examples like Dwyane Wade and Gabrielle Union’s support of their transgender child serve as powerful reminders of the importance of acceptance and love. We wrap up this enlightening episode with a call to action for kindness, respect, and positive affirmations, reinforcing the message that every individual deserves to be cherished and accepted for who they are. Tune in for an episode that celebrates the power of authenticity, love, and community support.

Transcript

Kali: 0:00

Hello and thank you for joining the D for the week show. Before we get started, I want to ask you to like, share and subscribe, and also comment. We love to hear from you. I'm your host, kali, and today's show is about transgender men. Today we'll be interviewing a trans man, asking all the questions you may always wanted to ask.

Natalia: 0:20

So first off, tell us your name, my name is Natalia and also I'm a transgender woman.

Kali: 0:28

Transgender woman and you can correct me at any time, because I am learning as we go Okay. So how old are you? I am 26. Okay, 26 years old. And where are you from, Like where were you born Originally? I?

Natalia: 0:42

am Trinidadian, trinidad Trinidad Originally. Yeah, from like, where were you born originally? I am trinidad trinidad. Yeah, original, yeah, really, I grew up on east side, east street. Um, I grew up, grew up like. I became like the jungle on the west side. West side made me hang on, west side made me who I am.

Kali: 0:56

Okay, but now I live in lincoln park okay, so how old were you when you came um from I?

Natalia: 1:02

was a baby, I was a baby, okay.

Kali: 1:05

Have you been back? No, Okay. So what do you identify as male or female? I?

Natalia: 1:11

identify as a female. Female pronouns, female in everything. Ma'am, miss she, her. You know no male parts or male pronouns at all.

Kali: 1:32

And do you mind if we ask what was your name that your mother named you when you were born? My mother, hey, miss carter. My mother named me danielle carter. Okay, yeah, okay. So how old were you when you realized?

Natalia: 1:36

you were different than others. I never actually realized. I still don't think I'm different than others. Honestly I don't think I'm different. But, um, I'm natural. I don't take pills or anything like that. Like, this is just me, this is just. You know his creation. So you know, I didn't know At first I was gay, not gay at all, but you know he's a woman, I'm a woman and my mother has all girls. I'm the youngest. You know, if you do your research, you know it can happen. It can happen in the womb. You know it can happen, she can happen in the womb. You know with the levels, you know testosterone and you know the hormonal balance. You know, like you know different?

Kali: 2:08

yeah, and so that's one of the questions I was going to ask you. So you think you were born wrong like so? How do you feel? Like? So what is the answer to give us? Like when they ask you how did you do you feel? Like? You became like this, or you came out the womb like this? I believe I was created this way. There's some I don't know what he identifies as or she, but on Facebook, tiktok I follow, and she's pregnant. I think it's a he, but he's pregnant.

Natalia: 2:38

I was thinking she's pregnant.

Kali: 2:40

Yeah, I don't know who you're talking about, but she's pregnant Biologically.

Natalia: 2:43

It's a she. I can again, I don't know who you're talking about, but she's pregnant Biologically. It's a she. Yeah, because I can't get pregnant.

Kali: 2:46

Right and he identifies as a man. I spoke to him and that's a transgender man.

Natalia: 2:52

Yeah, that would be a transgender man. That would be a woman, as in you, that is now transferring into a biological man. Okay, yes. Okay.

Kali: 3:02

So what age did you start dressing and acting?

Natalia: 3:06

more feminine. Oh baby, I was a baby Really. Mm-hmm. Ask Miss Carter. Miss Carter got mad and said that to me one day because I cut up her clothes. I went in her room and cut her clothes up so I could fit it. Yeah, because I couldn't fit my mother's clothes. So I cut her clothes up and I wore a heel. She was wearing these beautiful white wedges, you know, lace on them. She came home one day. She's like baby. Look, she wasn't mad about me dressing up, she was mad about the fact that I cut her clothes up, you know, oh okay.

Kali: 3:36

So your parents, she accepted it, she was okay with it. When did she notice that you start dressing?

Natalia: 3:42

I mean, you know, since we got to keep it real. You know what I'm saying. I want to keep it 100% real. You know the entire season. I believe at the beginning, you know it was like or she took it as a joke. You know, I was just.

Kali: 3:58

You know a babe, right, there we go.

Natalia: 4:00

Yeah, very much so. But you know, at this point in my life I believe in my mother. She's okay, she's content. You know what I'm saying. There's still a part of her, that's like. You know, I am the youngest and the only biological boy that she's had. I'm the last child and I'm the only boy that she had. You know what I'm saying. So then I'm like hello, I'm having a so her first response.

Kali: 4:22

She was a little sad at first.

Natalia: 4:24

I believe she was sad, but she would never admit it. She was sad, she wouldn't admit it.

Kali: 4:27

She always accepted you and loved you she wouldn't admit it she didn't always accept it.

Natalia: 4:32

I'm sorry. She's always loved me. My mom has never not loved me. She loves me, but she has not always accepted me and acceptance has been a thing that you know. We grew up. We grew up, we got it.

Kali: 4:45

We got to get back we had to grow into it, yeah, yeah.

Natalia: 4:49

After she probably realized it wasn't a stage, she said I have to just start accepting you exactly so the first day you dressed as a woman, how did the people around you and that you know react so the first day I did it, you know you mean publicly or privately, like like publicly, publicly, I don't actually remember because I didn't care. I didn't actually care. You know, I really didn't care. But you know, I believe that woman congested and kept away. You know what I'm saying. But in all actuality it was an old mind, it was a no one knew, it was like no one gave a fuck. I'm a bad little bitty, you know I'm saying. But you know I was younger. So I'm 26 now, but I was younger, like um 16, 15 went outside.

Kali: 5:31

You know yeah, and a lot of people yeah, because you do look real.

Natalia: 5:35

You have uh feminine features and they're very you know yeah, but I also have my, my muscles, which I purposely have I work out okay yeah, I love my muscles I see you in a lot of workout clothes, a lot yeah. I work out daily. I have a saying work out daily, get some spots together, get some spots and all that.

Kali: 5:54

Have you ever dated a girl before? Yes, do you still see her now? Do you still know her now? Does she know? Did you, did she know? Yeah, so she's like bisexual. She was um pansexual yeah with me.

Natalia: 6:20

I'm pansexual, okay, meaning, which is me. I'm pansexual, okay, meaning I can do with anything. You know what I'm saying. I'm attracted to all kinds of things, okay, like male, female, shims, trans, hermaphrodites. I'm into everything. That's what I am. But you know, fuck her.

Kali: 6:38

So you've never had kids before.

Natalia: 6:40

Well, I said fuck her, because she killed my firstborn the only time, you know. And also that's the only reason I haven't started taking pills, because when you start pills, your sperm is like wrong Duh.

Kali: 6:51

So I'm wondering how are those women that are taking the pills that grow the beard and stuff, how are they still getting pregnant?

Natalia: 6:58

Because they're not taking the pills.

Kali: 7:00

I mean, I don't think they are, but she got a full beard, so maybe she just was a girl that grows hair.

Natalia: 7:06

That's a good-ass question I need to ask my friend. We have a part two of this situation. Her name is Armand. We need to make sure, yeah, because she is a baby, so she takes the. Yeah, she has a beard and everything. She probably got the surgery the other day. Does she have children?

Kali: 7:20

No, Okay, but she'll know the real. No, she'll know the real, okay, yeah.

Natalia: 7:24

Yeah, but when it comes to my situation, if I have sperm pills, my sperm will go down to zero count, so I wouldn't be able to get on pregnant. You know what I'm saying.

Kali: 7:35

So you have a plan in the future to have children In the next month or two?

Natalia: 7:38

I don't guess you said the next month or two Okay month until okay I get you know what it's like inside my pills and I will be getting cut off.

Kali: 7:45

so that was the question I was going to have for you. So you plan to do the whole procedure. Oh, very much. So okay, and I was going to ask you are you taking the pills now? But you said not yet, because you want to have children and that affects that I'm naturally critical like this okay so do you tell people what sex you are?

Natalia: 8:01

yes, okay and also, and also, I used to work the block, every one that I've ever encountered. Where my soul? Where my soul? Hello, how can I help you? Okay, cool, but before I you know where my soul? I'm trans, okay, and most men are okay with it.

Natalia: 8:17

I don't say most. I'm going to say a lot. What's the? I'm crazy, I ain't gonna lie. But see, if you lie, if you lie to these niggas, let me tell you something it's not worth it. It's not worth lying to them. It's not worth it. Love yourself. Love yourself entirely okay, because then you know you get a better response.

Kali: 8:38

So do you think there should be like a law that requires you to disclose your sex?

Natalia: 8:41

Yeah, yeah, because that's very much so. You are disrespecting that person's right to accept or, you know, to say uh-uh, and that's still a man, that's still a human being.

Kali: 8:53

So when he gets in rage, it's understandable.

Natalia: 8:56

Man, be joyous bitch, Don't come calling me, don't call my father, baby See, I told you and I told all my girls, tell that nigga, cause if we can't fuck, oh well, you ain't missing out on nothing.

Kali: 9:07

It's too many sharks on your bed.

Natalia: 9:08

As soon as he find out if you in love with him, you losing it as soon as he resign and bring them up on the air and he fit a little sack for baby to survive. Some of these is going off your top for real.

Kali: 9:19

So you, yeah, yeah. So it's not worth dying, it's not worth getting hurt period.

Natalia: 9:23

Yeah, it's not worth risking your life. It's not worth risking your body, your skin, your beauty. It's not worth that.

Kali: 9:33

Do you think transgenders should be able to participate in the sports of choice, like, for example, a boy wrestling a girl, because he feels that he's a girl.

Natalia: 9:41

I mean not until he feels that shit. But what if you don't understand? No, okay, that he's a girl. I mean not until he's like what feels and shit, but what people don't understand. When you start to abuse, after a certain amount of time, your body is feminine. You are a bitch. Your strength bitch. Everything is female. You know what I'm saying? You are no longer a male. You don't have the strength, no more. You can't fight the same way. You're not as strong as you used to be. You're a woman. The pills break you. I ain't going to say break you down. You know what I'm saying? The woman I broke down. Excuse me, pardon me about that, but when you get to a certain point, your body is feminine. You're a woman. Long story short, you're a woman. Okay, so no, Not until that. Check the balance first, because a man you're not going to wrestle with her.

Natalia: 10:25

You can take her as a dog, no offense. I'm saying no offense because the first one of my family is a stud. She can take my as a dog any day. She can take me down any day.

Kali: 10:38

Does she take hormones?

Natalia: 10:40

She's a woman, but she's a stud. She's just naturally a strong woman.

Kali: 10:43

Yeah, you're not on the hormones and you just answered one of the questions did the hormones make you weaker?

Natalia: 10:51

No see, I don't like that term the hormones not make you weaker. More feminine they make you more woman, okay, more feminine. And women are not as strong as men. I guess we can say weaker, but we're not going to say weaker because that's rude.

Kali: 11:05

We're just referring to men being stronger than women physically. It's scientifically proven.

Natalia: 11:11

So we'll say not as strong Allegedly.

Kali: 11:15

Well, because we do know. We just said, your sister can take you down, and so we do know, and I've seen women knock men out.

Natalia: 11:22

I've seen little women. I've seen women knock men out.

Kali: 11:25

I've seen little women. I've seen women my size fight a grown big. So yeah, it's possible.

Natalia: 11:29

I have fought, men you know what I mean.

Kali: 11:31

So yeah, you know it's possible, okay, and I don't know where that strength came from at the time, but it did. So what do you do for work Like?

Natalia: 11:39

do you have a job? How do you make money?

Kali: 11:41

You, told me that you work the blog, but is that the?

Natalia: 11:44

only thing I used to work the blog okay. Right now I do customer service Okay, and you at customer service, like at a store? Yeah, Okay, that works. Maybe I'm on the blog. Hang on, I believe in like I like sex. Hang on. Okay, let me tell you a story, if I have to. From this point further, if you're not 18 and older, you should go away.

Kali: 12:08

They can only watch my show if they're 18 and older.

Natalia: 12:16

Okay, pure bull, I'm afraid. I like what I do. I like sex, I like making a mess. Please don't want me, I like that.

Kali: 12:27

I told you we get get for the week here.

Natalia: 12:29

Get into it. I like what I do. That's why I make money. The money is a plus, but no one wants you. You know what I'm saying. That's the whole thing. That's why I do it. Period. I'm a hoe. I'm a hoe is the head of entertainment. H-o-e. The head of entertainment.

Kali: 12:54

So have you ever messed with married men?

Natalia: 12:56

You can't get married. You can't get married. Yeah, entertainment. So have you ever messed with married men?

Kali: 13:02

We want to know, because we know these married men out here. I mean, we know, you know what I'm saying, but we want to hear from y'all, because they deny it, they don't know.

Natalia: 13:12

So how do you approach people today?

Kali: 13:15

I don't know Y'all don't know. So how do you approach people?

Natalia: 13:20

today, I don't. I never approach them. I don't approach them because they're on the block. They approach me. Okay, to respond to their question when I would approach someone, in what form?

Kali: 13:34

Like, if you're attracted to someone, do you just go up to them?

Natalia: 13:37

Hi boo.

Kali: 13:38

What's up?

Natalia: 13:38

In what form? What do you mean? Like, if you're attracted to someone, do you just go up to them? Or Like, hey, boo, what's up? Okay, you know what I mean. I don't have to identify myself with anything else. Back in the day I used to understand I ain't got to tell a nigga who I am until he want me to tell him. I get everything he want to give me. I get everything he want to give me after he want to give me and before anyway, so there are a lot of men on the deal.

Kali: 13:59

Yeah, and how do you feel about deal men, are you?

Natalia: 14:01

they piss you off or they disappoint me no I don't fuck with no undercover you find out that they deal, you cut them off, yeah yeah, I'm too sexy to fuck any undercover nigga. Okay, like, yeah, that is that. That is that you gotta hide the fact it's you with me. No, no, that's right, unless it's business. You gotta hide the fact it's you and me. I don't know, unless it's business.

Kali: 14:22

I'm talking about like relationships. So do you think that the pride might help or hurt your community? Do you think it's necessary?

Natalia: 14:31

I mean excuse me, they're like asking me if black history might matter, okay, does black history might help us or does it hurt us? I don't know, excuse me. Nobody's asking me if Black History Month matters, okay, um, does Black History Month help us or does it harm us? I don't know. I don't know. I'm gonna say why. I don't know, because it's not a month for me. It's not a month, it's my life.

Natalia: 14:54

Everyday I wake up, I have to be happy who I am. I have to love who I am. Everyday I wake up, I have to accept who I am. Every day I wake up, I have to accept who I am. You know what I'm saying and I'm not pushing on nobody else. Honestly, okay, I'm keeping facts. I think probably I'm pushing off. You know, I don't know how to say it. You know what I'm saying. Can you say it for me? Pushing the agenda on people Trying accept, trying to make people accept what you do. You know what I'm saying, but also help people know that we're here. You know what I'm saying. We are here and we are queer. That's what you guys say. But I say we are here and we are motherfucking, human, fuck being queer, fuck being lesbian, gay. We are human and we have feelings, first and foremost.

Kali: 15:37

And my motto is you know. I always say you know, everybody is someone's baby, and I always try to think of that like if you were. You know my kid. How would I want people to treat you, regardless of what you were?

Natalia: 15:48

doing. How would you feel? I mean, that's not to make me, that's to you. You can ask me. I ask people about this One of my children.

Kali: 15:54

How can people like this One?

Natalia: 15:55

of my children.

Kali: 15:58

First, I will be extremely hurt, and that's because. What you mean? Why? Because if I only have one son, You're thinking about my aspect. How would I feel as a parent?

Natalia: 16:15

Yeah.

Kali: 16:18

It would hurt me because I would feel like I'm losing my son, but I would eventually if that's not a stage, I would accept you and love you and just have you teach me more about who you are and why you feel that way, so that I can understand you. You know, but I ain't going to lie. It probably would take me a few months or a few weeks, you know, and I ain't gonna lie it probably would take me a few months or a few weeks, you know, and I wouldn't show it.

Kali: 16:39

I probably wouldn't show it because I don't. I know for you to come out or to be that way and not be accepted by others, and then also by me, would be too much yeah so. I know that you would need my support more than outside, and so I would come around to that.

Natalia: 16:58

You know what I?

Kali: 16:58

mean I would need my mother to love me.

Natalia: 17:02

My mother is the reason I love me. I need her to love me. I need her to love me you need everyone to love you.

Kali: 17:08

No, I am for some. I mean, they don't have to. Well, what I'm saying? Like they don't have to love you, or? Like what you do, but respect you and not hurt you or harm you. They don't have to speak up on how they feel about you when they see you in public. That's how I feel about you.

Natalia: 17:24

I never understand that, though. Why do these people got to bring up a straight man? Why do these people bring up my dick? You know what I'm saying? I want this question to be asked broadband, okay. Why do motherfuckers worry about my dick? Okay? Ain. A broad man, okay. Why are you, motherfuckers, worried about my dick? Okay, ain't you a straight man? Ain't you really straight? You talk about my dick more than I talk about my dick. Think about my dick more than I think about my dick, and keep it real your niggas won't dick more than you want in their ass.

Kali: 17:52

Your niggas is gay A lot of them.

Natalia: 17:54

I feel so, and you're just confirming it, you know. I'm saying I mean well, that is my opinion. It's not facts, it's just my opinion. You're niggas, it's gay, you're gay, you're gay.

Kali: 18:04

You are, you're gay and you're just having too much ego.

Natalia: 18:07

There's not none of them or something. I respect them because they can't.

Kali: 18:15

Because of whatever career I've met a lot of Chaldeans they can't, so is a Chaldean on the deep.

Natalia: 18:26

Yalla Habibi.

Kali: 18:28

Oh God, Yalla, yalla, baby Habibi.

Natalia: 18:37

We did dig for the week. We kept getting into it. I hope y'all can hear this. We got the fans going because it's hot we are. You know, we're very transparent here oh my god.

Kali: 18:48

Well, I do know that, as the industry for the calvdeans, they come to the club and they get on my nerves like I'm retired now, uh, but I used to dance for 20 years or so, um, every now and then I go. You know, I said my last 90 days if I'm gonna dance, whatever, whatever. But you know, but yes them, caldeans and the indians and the people from them other countries oh my god, yes, they don't.

Natalia: 19:11

They got them the real deals, okay, but I'm cool they pay a lot for you to keep quiet, I'm sure too.

Kali: 19:17

Okay, if you could tell your younger self one thing, what would it?

Natalia: 19:21

be. Do not tell drugs.

Kali: 19:24

Okay, so you do drugs.

Natalia: 19:32

What is your drug? My drug is marijuana. I ain't gonna never let you slip it down. But that ain't a drug, that's like normal. You know what I'm saying Nowadays? It's normal. But my drug choice is marijuana. But I dip it a little in a zippin' zoo. Okay, I'm going to keep that to myself. I'm going to keep that to myself. I'm going to keep that to myself. That's fine. No, but you have admitted that I zip it. Yeah, okay, I zip it. No, physical pound power, nothing like that. Okay, that's good, I zip it.

Kali: 20:04

That is good. So do you feel that kids should be able to begin the process of transition, or do you think they should have to be a certain age like an adult?

Natalia: 20:12

Why is this a question. Why is it a question?

Kali: 20:15

Because they are trying to in politics. They're trying to make it legal so that kids can do that without telling their parents.

Natalia: 20:24

You know what I was going to do. 18 plus, sure, do what the fuck you want to do. Keep that rule the same way for life. No one can do anything like that, as I've been saying, until you're 18 and older Period and you feel like you have to be an adult. I haven't started hormones and I'm proud about it because my body's where it's at, I'm where I'm at, I'm looking good. If I would have started hormones back then, it may not have been like this way. It may have been fucked up. It may have been fucked up and you know the crazy.

Kali: 20:51

The reason why I asked you to do that as well is because the politician that's trying to get that to be legal she has done her transitioning, or she's doing it, but she's saying I'm glad I waited, because I wouldn't have been able to have my kids if I wouldn't have waited. But then she's trying to make it legal for kids and then they won't be able to have kids Because she's messy.

Natalia: 21:11

Now how you going to turn it on we?

Kali: 21:14

getting deep. I told y'all we was going to get deep today. Ain't no way you going to sit in front of somebody that you had to wait.

Natalia: 21:21

Why you going to sit and wait when they can't wait? First of all, stop pushing this shit on your kids. We got kids. We got babies.

Kali: 21:29

Some people are going through a stage, some people do change their mind.

Natalia: 21:34

Like back in the day I had to stay out here and be saying, raven, if you ever see this video, hey, bitch, I miss you. Raven Willis, raven Willis, like that was my baby, that was my baby, that was my girlfriend. We was back in the behind of the street and we said I said that, okay, you said I wasn't okay, I wasn't that bitch.

Natalia: 21:58

Okay, oops, but stop pushing that shit on these kids. Do that, understand me. They will think that that's how you know what I'm saying. That's how they should be. Yeah, as it does. They think that because they think men and women that's how they should be. You know what I'm saying. Stop pushing things on kids. Okay, let them grow up, let them finally forgot. Let them you know what I'm saying evolve, evaluate themselves. You know what I'm saying. Evaluate you know what I'm saying what they want, what they don't want.

Kali: 22:25

Make sure they're sure. Yeah, because they could be going through something.

Natalia: 22:32

It's not for you to make sure.

Kali: 22:33

So you know that Dwyane Wade situation no I do not Okay, Dwyane. Wade.

Natalia: 22:40

I think that's his name. He's a basketball player.

Kali: 22:45

That's the custody of his son from his original mom and now him and Gabrielle Ewing is raising him. But they started letting him change and take the pills and the process. He's only 13.

Natalia: 22:58

You think that was too early. No, I would never judge the parents for their actions. I don't know about Dwayne, but I believe in Master Gabriel. I don't know the bitch, but no offense, bitch is a terminology for me. I believe she's not ignorant. She ain't ignorant. She's not ignorant. She's a beautiful black woman. Okay, trust in that beautiful black woman. She knows what the fuck she's doing, so you think they made the right decision yeah.

Natalia: 23:27

First of all, they didn't make the decision. They accepted the decision. Okay, that's what we need to start realizing. Okay, these parents are not making decisions for their kids. They're accepting the decisions that their children make.

Kali: 23:39

So do you think one should have counseling before they make the decision?

Natalia: 23:42

If you want you to check, yes, you should.

Kali: 23:47

So they give you a check.

Natalia: 23:48

Girl honey. Okay, I'm saying something, so did you have counseling?

Kali: 23:53

No, I didn't go.

Natalia: 23:55

I want you to check, I don't want you to tell me.

Kali: 23:57

I want to be out.

Natalia: 23:58

I don't want to be out, but before I get you a check, gender dysphoria is a thing and you get some money for having that Shut the fuck up. The front door has been shut, honey.

Kali: 24:09

Oh, my God Okay. Let's go in there. So let's see. So do you feel transgenders should be able to adopt and have the same like sex in the same house? Yeah, so what about the kid that's like but I don't have a mom and a dad. You think that's true? You?

Natalia: 24:29

got both One. Now, at this point, what the fuck are you saying At this point? Now, you got both and one. At this point, like, okay, have that question, just like blew my mind, like, of course, of course, I'm gonna get my baby. I don't want to adopt, you know? Again, I'm on my tribe, I'm a carter, I want my bloodline to extend. You know, you know what I'm saying yeah, no ifs and buts. Okay, but I, okay, but I will adopt after that. I'm talking about one.

Kali: 25:00

If you want one, that's blood.

Natalia: 25:02

Yeah, I just want five boys by blood. You all want all boys, all boys I would love to. I can't have no babes like me, I can't If. I have a girl, she's going to be just like me, like my niece, my niece, enazor. Her name's Enazor Carter, aka my boo. I call her boo. That's her nickname. Boo yeah, when I walk in the house, I'm like hey boo. She's like hey boo. My auntie she's only 12 years old. She be like hey boo. I'm like hey boo. You know what I'm saying.

Kali: 25:35

That's awesome. That's awesome, okay, so do you think that transgenders should be able to go into whatever bathroom they want?

Natalia: 25:42

Yeah, okay, I think whatever. Don't want a man's bathroom. I was going to think of them as a man's bathroom. If you're a trans woman don't want a man's bathroom, why would you? It affects yourself.

Kali: 25:51

How do you feel about the that was in the Planet Fitness locker room with a 12-year-old girl and she was hysterical and ran out and everybody is now boycotting Planet Fitness. What happened? So there was a trans man in the female's locker room and it was a 12-year-old girl and she saw him naked and she realized he was a man and she got hysterical and ran out and everybody is now boycotting Planet Fitness. Y'all messy.

Natalia: 26:25

Y'all messy, that's the parent. You know that parent here, not the job.

Kali: 26:29

I mean not the man.

Natalia: 26:31

That's the parent part. The fucking parent should be On guard. On point. I mean look, some of us are bad bitches, okay, and you will not know it until we expose ourselves, okay. So you have to realize and you have to accept and acknowledge we are here, okay, we are out there. Like I said, I don't want to look exactly like you. No offense to you, no offense to you at all, but exactly like you. She you know trans men.

Kali: 26:59

Yes, trans women, women, yeah, and that's the thing.

Natalia: 27:04

I don't know.

Kali: 27:05

So I'm saying it right. I have to fix the title on this.

Natalia: 27:08

I told you. That's why I said that, because I thought of the title. Yes, you could have told me yeah.

Kali: 27:14

Because I have danced with and she's in that movie. What is it?

Natalia: 27:21

Hangover.

Kali: 27:22

She's one of the Asian girls in that movie.

Natalia: 27:26

I've danced with a few. We're here we are here, we are human, we have feelings, we care. But for that situation and to acknowledge that situation, my opinion is a girl, look at my opinion. We should get started before.

Kali: 27:40

That's what I was going to ask you.

Natalia: 27:42

We just need to adjust and realize that it's what it is and also that motherfucker should not have been around a kid doing whatever the fuck he's doing, that child's acknowledged in order to know what it was At the end of the day. I'm going to be real. I'm going to be honest about the situation. The woman that was a child. The fuck you doing. How like you don't see. What do you?

Kali: 28:11

think, yeah, I was. I see that didn't just close.

Natalia: 28:12

But it had to be enough for her to realize, and then she got scared and ran out I mean for the other women to you know her in because other women probably would have reacted before she got a dress. Women know, they know, though, they know though, like y'all bitches know.

Kali: 28:28

But it had to probably get to a point of him getting completely a dress before Exactly.

Natalia: 28:32

I know that y'all should be minding business, but outside of them minding business, the woman shouldn't be in the world to speak, period. She shouldn't be in the end that people were speaking about what you're doing so is there anyone in your family that is not accepting it?

Kali: 28:52

I? Won't give up they are everybody, like when you know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't want to know.

Natalia: 29:01

I don't want to know. If I go to a function and you don't accept me and don't go to school, I don't go. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. If I go to a function and you don't accept me and you're my family, I will be hurt. No, they're not going to hurt me.

Kali: 29:12

Bye, bye-bye. So when Thanksgiving and Christmas comes, what do you do?

Natalia: 29:20

I'm pretty sure my auntie Ruthie, she probably was like oh my god. She was like sorry, oh my god.

Kali: 29:26

But you know what is so crazy? Like you know, everybody acts like they're so perfect. But being in the world that you know dancing. I have seen and been around so much. I've danced for preachers, and you know what I'm saying All kind of people. So it's like people can't you know? I don't know.

Natalia: 29:43

Just based upon somebody's job, it doesn't matter. I didn't have any deacons. Baby, a lot of deacons, baby, a lot of them, brothers, them, ushers, baby.

Kali: 29:53

See, I didn't even put that on. I mean, you know what? That's something we need to know. Wait a minute. Listen here the deacon. We know, we know, we know, we know. They in there Judging everybody else and telling them who want to go to hell and shit. But they out there, driving about two miles prior looking for you Down.

Natalia: 30:21

I know, see, that's what I'm saying but we're going to get along.

Kali: 30:24

It's a whole underworld that they you know it's on the ground, yeah it's that people pretend that it's not there but it's on there.

Natalia: 30:36

Very much. So you know what?

Kali: 30:39

At the end of the day, I can respect someone like you that is very transparent, rather than someone that is living a double life, it's gonna hurt someone so when they find out.

Natalia: 30:50

Y'all niggas need to start doing that. Y'all niggas need to start doing that to that woman that y'all with them bitches got hearts. Them bitches got fun y'all sitting there going around the corner. Fucking that nigga y'all going around the corner. Fucking that nigga Y'all going around the corner fucking that nigga that's the part that's wrong.

Kali: 31:08

That's not a problem, that's offensive. It's the same thing as not giving them an option to be. It should be legal. I think so.

Natalia: 31:16

It should be legal it should be legal to sit and fuck a nigga at the same time, and do not tell that bitch that she's a fucking nigga.

Kali: 31:25

And there's some people that's cool with it. Yes, there's some people that are very cool with all of the you know, but you need to be open and tell us what's going on. You know what I'm saying and that's just the bottom line. If you can be open and tell us, then that's what we. You know you're giving people an option.

Natalia: 31:45

And that's just what I'm saying. Like give us an option. It's not an option. Give me a choice. Yes, it's not an option At that point. It's not an option, it's a choice. It matters, dude, it matters. And I'm not saying it matters, it's the fact that it's the season. It doesn't matter if it's your heart. Yes, like yeah.

Kali: 32:04

Come on, nigga, you fucking a nigga. You fucking a nigga. I mean, that's different. It's a different ballgame. It's like I can't compete with that. You cheating on me? I know you don't want me. You know what I'm saying.

Natalia: 32:17

Yeah, no, no, no no, they don't want you, I just didn't mean to. They want you more Because they're not fucking with another bitch, they're fucking with Nick. God, hold me up to that. That. Nigga said okay, can't another bitch replace my bitch, I'm getting Nick. Okay, that's the deeper thought process. The deeper he's not fucking with another bitch, he's going to a Nick, so he still want yeah, he wants you, I want pussy, I like pussy.

Natalia: 32:45

They just don't know how to be honest and say they won't at all they scared cause they know most likely it could be your fault, it could be their fault, it could be the woman's fault that make them feel like they can't be herself, but they shouldn't be with that bitch though. You know what I'm saying. If you have to be deal, you should not be with the woman. That's your way, or the man. That's your way. You have to hide who you are. You have to hide what you want.

Kali: 33:10

And that's in any situation, like whether you're straight or not. If you, you know whatever you like to do. If your partner don't accept that, then it's just like what's the point? You know, you know. So is there anything you want to? Just you know, share or share with the people, or just disclose to people, or just tell people about your community before we end everything okay, my name is down, so good, I'm see why I'm fucking.

Natalia: 33:33

my goodness, yeah, this is me. Stop, it's just me. It's like it's what we think Definitely don't support. That it's true. That's what her do on her own time on her show. But no, it's true, y'all motherfuckers are unsupportive motherfuckers and I meant that.

Kali: 33:58

So they're hypocrites because they want everybody else to accept and support, but they're not supporting and accepting each other.

Natalia: 34:04

You a big, big guy, because I don't take bills. You ain't no real trans.

Kali: 34:09

You ain't no real trans, so they have, like they biases towards things if you're not doing, going all the way. What they feel like is going all the way out.

Natalia: 34:17

Like black people say, if you ain't seen the color purple, you lose your black cards, I ain't never seen a color purple.

Kali: 34:23

So they got things that they consider that don't make like you're not all the way one of us if you don't do this.

Natalia: 34:29

It's not Really. You're hot and they mean that shit, though They'll bite you.

Kali: 34:37

That is crazy, and so that's things that we don't know. And I mean, like she said, we go through stuff like that amongst and it hurts?

Natalia: 34:46

Yeah, it sure hurts. So I know who the fuck I am, with or without the pills, with or without the pills? Yeah, I understand what the pills I need. I'm like, I'm ready. I'm ready. I just want me a child. I will have my baby. Can you guys hear? We're talking today?

Kali: 35:06

I'm going to go, you going to have some kids.

Natalia: 35:09

I will.

Kali: 35:12

How many?

Natalia: 35:12

grandkids does your mom have?

Kali: 35:14

Three, you said she got five kids.

Natalia: 35:19

Five of them. We have Quintella, we have my queer habits, we have my queer habits. So we have four and something Okay.

Kali: 35:27

And you still contact with all your siblings. I live with them. So you guys must have a nice big upper lower flat or something. You said you live in the basement, yeah.

Natalia: 35:35

See the houses are.

Kali: 35:36

see, most of my viewers are from LA.

Natalia: 35:38

The houses are huge in Detroit Like you can really rent the whole basement as another apartment and then rent the whole attic as a whole. I got my shit together in the basement, man, I'm not gonna get boozed up or anything. Okay, okay, okay, I'm not gonna get boozed up or anything. I'm not gonna get boozed, okay. Yeah, my area, that's my shit, that's her floor.

Kali: 35:57

See, like the basement is just like a whole house, but it's underground and so it's like, whatever size the house is, it's that size underground. So the basement would be kind of lit and it's always cooler down there, you know. So underground it's like always 10, 20 degrees.

Natalia: 36:13

The only thing about the basement you hear everything, yeah.

Kali: 36:15

The walk-in, yeah, if the wooden floor, if you don't have a carpet to be in, it's really it echoes a lot. It was very fun though. I thank you so much for joining us you have been so transparent. You have been great. Give me a hug. I'm definitely going to keep tabs on you.

Kali: 36:33

I want to make sure that you know you're safe and, like you know, now I'm going to be checking on you because that's just how I am and you have been great. I totally thank you for your time and everything that your energy. You have great energy. Stay happy and loving on yourself the way you are. I wish you well in life.

Natalia: 36:52

I'm not happy at all.

Kali: 36:53

Why aren't you happy?

Natalia: 36:54

I'm not happy either. Where are you at? I'm not good, you're still finding your place. You're in the middle point.

Kali: 37:04

You're going to be happy once you accomplish the things probably maybe.

Natalia: 37:07

I believe my baby's going to be. I know my baby's going to make me when I have my baby, my baby's going to make me okay.

Kali: 37:12

More Make you a better person. Yeah, give you a reason to live. Give you a reason.

Natalia: 37:20

Something to do. Well, you have. Like I said, give me a reason to live, give me a reason Something to do. Something to do Other than young guy, yeah.

Kali: 37:23

Well, you have, like I said, you've been great. You've been very transparent. I thank you and I thank you all for watching the D for the Week show. Don't forget to like, share, subscribe and comment below if you have any questions, because we may have her back. She said she is a beautiful man, so what does she?

Natalia: 37:47

I'm a bitch, don't cut me out later on.

Kali: 37:50

Right, because I have to be corrected all the time.

Natalia: 37:52

I'm trying to learn how to say these things.

Kali: 37:54

You know what I'm saying.

Natalia: 37:55

She's beautiful. Okay, I still say beautiful. I tell men you're beautiful.

Kali: 38:00

Come here, you're beautiful.

Natalia: 38:02

I've called men beautiful all the time.

Kali: 38:05

Yeah, so don't forget to like, share, subscribe and comment if you have any questions. We'd love to hear your input, and you were one of my best guests so far. Remember to love everyone as you would want them to love you. Okay, you would want them to love you the same way you would them. We love people that way. That's my motto, and don't forget everybody wants somebody's baby Okay. It's D for the week show and again thanks for joining us. Bye.